DiCarlo Escalation Ladder: Concise and Emphasized

Fuente

I started studying this ladder, and wanted my own version a little bit more concise so it was easier for me to remember. I am planning to do this with a girl I have been on a few dates with and I'm hoping this will do the trick. Please give me any suggestions or opinions.

DiCarlo Ladder Concise and Emphasized

Eye contact is key at outset. Under each class, first points are incidental, second are overt.

Class 1

Shaking hands, tapping on shoulder, touching to emphasize points, high five.
Holding hands, arm in arm escorting.

Class 2

Legs touching while standing and sitting, brushing abdomen while talking, touching back with palm while pulling in.
Hugging, escorting with hand on back, putting her legs over yours while sitting, holding her tummy on the side while sitting and talking, placing her hand on your thigh.

Class 3

Brushing something off her face, talking while touching her face to yours because loud etc, touching necklace, pinching cheeks.
Placing head on your shoulder, smelling her neck, stroking face with finger looking in her eyes, running fingers through hair looking in eyes, holding side of her neck looking in eyes.

Brief points to remember

Touch to emphasize points, brush abdomen while talking, touch back while walking, brush something off face, pinch cheeks. When seated: put her legs over yours, hold her tummy on the side, place her hand on your thigh. Place head on shoulder, smell neck, stroke face, run fingers through hair, hold side of neck.

Ramp

To be done in an isolated location:

Kissing from close, move in as to kiss then pull away to say something else, builds tension. Place finger under her chin and pull mouth towards.
Kiss neck gently while holding her close, possible biting.
After kissing mouth & neck, move hands under her shirt on her back.
Move hand to front under shirt, lift her shirt, lift your shirt as well and touch abdomens.
Start kissing abdomen with shirt exposed, along sides and move up. Gauge if can move toward breasts.
If kissing body position in-between legs so midsection rubs against vagina. If kissing mouth position thigh to stimulate vagina. Can also plant hand on bed below her, using forearm to stimulate vagina.
Slip hand inside panties and touch naked ass. Move hand all the way down and reach vagina. Start touching area around it. Finger from behind.
Undo front of pants with other hand. Move to the front, use "come-hither" motion pulling forward on front wall.
Keep fingering while removing pants. Can say "do you want me inside you?" or directly tell her to take off her pants.

Notas

Higher rungs unlock lower rungs of classes. Do not start ramp with intention to finish later.

Comentarios destacados

batshit_lazy (▲ 16)

Good summary :) Couple of questions: What ways to brush the abdomen have you had the most success with? What kind of excuses do you use to move her legs over yours? Unless you've already K-closed her, I see it as creating a very awkward situation.

[deleted] (▲ 8)

Putting sunblock on a girl I was gaming. She leaned and laid on my lap as I applied the sunblock. Got super sexy.

Bobsutan (▲ 5)

Context matters. If in a bar or club, telling a funny joke or teasingly poking her in the stomach as a rapport break, then hugging so you get contact as a form of rebuilding comfort and sexually escalating at the same time — which is a rapport break in its own right, resolved by building more comfort by separating and taking a step back.

sertasheep23 (▲ 14)

"Do not start ramp with intention to finish later." Made that mistake... big big mistake.

[deleted] (▲ 9)

Does anyone else consider Class 1 "Holding hands, arm in arm escorting" to be a higher level of kino than Class 2 "Legs touching while standing and sitting"? Holding hands while you walk down the street just seems more romantic and personal than leg rubbing.

batshit_lazy (▲ 21)

Your thoughts are good, but you're misunderstanding the concept. The stages are not built around what is considered to be 'most romantic'. They are barriers of comfort. Basically people touch and get touched by random things and persons all the time on their hands and arms, so they are used to that.

Abdomen and legs aren't as common places to be touched. They require a person to be much more within your personal space, and they are much closer to some of the erogenous zones — compared to hands and arms.

Face and neck requires someone to be really close, and it's very uncommon for people to be touched here by strangers. We are the most protective of our face, so a person has to feel very very close to you from an emotional standpoint to be comfortable with you getting that intimate. Walk up to a stranger and try to touch their face — they will flinch; this is why.

TheStagesmith (▲ 12)

While to an outsider it might seem more intimate, to the chick's subconsciousness those leg areas are much more intimate places to be touched than her hands. Everyone touches hands with handshakes, giving something to someone else, etc. Touching someone's legs is usually something reserved for a more sexual encounter, and doing so will put them in that frame of mind.

[deleted] (▲ 8)

There are literally a hundred platonic reasons to touch and hold someone's hand — invite her to a game of thumb-wars, ask to look at her painted nails, help her stand up from a chair, light her cigarette. You're kind of "allowed" to just grab someone's hand for dozens of appropriate reasons. Pressing your legs against her legs definitely has a more intimate feeling since it requires your bodies to be closer together.

ByAhabsGhost (▲ 3)

You can do stage 1 quasi-ironically too. Be overly-formal and make a joke out of it.

[deleted] (▲ 16)

So much easier to remember. As I understand it: Class 1 incidental = how you'd act around anyone, overt = how middle schoolers act around each other when dating. Class 2 incidental = friend zone touching, overt = how even the most nerdy kids act on prom night. Class 3 incidental = Aunt Gertrude (but less perm), overt = how hip hop stars act in music videos. Is that about right?

Dantai (▲ 5)

I just followed the ladder to a "t" but I got stuck and didn't go for the kiss. Situation: house party, my back to the wall she was real close, legs, abdomen touching, brushed her hair off her face. Her group of friends were in a circle talking right in front of us (a meter or so away). Should I have isolated further before going for the kiss? Or should I have just kissed her?

Bobsutan (▲ 5)

Pull her close so you're cheek to cheek talking in each other's ear. At some point kiss her neck when you feel the energy is right. After a few times of missing your opportunity you'll know what it feels like when it's "on". Next time you get it right and kiss her neck, pull back slightly and kiss her properly. Bam, makeout!

heresmokethis (▲ 4)

I never got the whole "touch abdomens" thing.

[deleted] (▲ 2)

The "brush abdomen while talking" point is one I've had trouble with — could you give an example of how to do this? I've noticed women sometimes do this when they're being playful (an "oh stop it" kind of touch), but I can't imagine how I would use it.

gozarthegozarian (▲ 1)

Just do it. Just brush her stomach or touch her stomach when you say something.